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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Myloth on Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:24 pm

    Thought I'd say hi been occupied my mother passed after a long illness. I think I finally stopped the smoking not sure

    what but I ran some Restore through it (again)then changed the oil and it went away maybe one of the walls has a

    scratch or a crappy ring it will get me going till I replace it.

    All that smoking blew oil into the carb so I had to pull that to clean it which means time for a rebuild as oil was

    everywhere.





    EWWWWW lots of gray gunk in there.











    Anyhow how is everyone making out, I haven't seen any updates lately?
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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Gooched78Caprice on Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:19 pm

    Sorry to hear about your mother passing, I wish you and your family the best. I think everyone must be out enjoying their car now that the weather has been more accommodating. Currently I am doing the research and fund collecting to get my NOS Delco am/fm, 8 track, cb radio working properly. After sitting on a shelf for the last 35 years I can only get 2 of the 4 speakers working, so it looks beautiful but has some issues that need to be addressed to work as intended. Keep us updated and let us know how the search for the 350 turns out.


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    Body & Soul & Bees

    Post  Myloth on Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:48 am

    I appreciate Condolences thanks.

    How does everyone feel about a 68' 283 (250hp) for a swap  there is a local that has one

    that is fairly fresh and low cost. I am figuring that even a 283 with 68 heads makes more hp than a 79 305

    and the mpg might be worth it for a cruiser. I doled up my 305 (pic below) still goes but it's a smoker



    But you know what they say about you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear lol. So I am inclined to swap

    the motor when I swap the transmission at the same time. It's  thought anyway maybe Sweet is right

    I should pursue a BBC instead.

    Anyone epoxy any body parts at all I have to cut quarters and was debating on whether to rivet or epoxy

    any thoughts?

    Almost forgot the bees lol I had weird experience the other day I had about a dozen honey bees in my fender.

    Buzzing in and out for hours next day they were all gone!
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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Sweet Seventy9 on Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:26 pm

    LOL, a straight 6 out of a 1960 Brookwood station wagon makes more horse power than a 305.

    A 283..... Nice!
    In 68 GM increased the journal sizes. Do you know if it has small or large journals? Hopefully large.
    You could drop the crank in a 327 or 350 block and make a 302!! That would be AWESOME!! You'd probably be the only one on the planet with a 302 in their B body!! Of course with a 302 you'd have to convert over to a stick, hehehe!

    I still think you should hook some Nitrous back up on the 305 and take it out in a blaze of glory! ..... with pics. Laughing


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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Myloth on Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:43 pm

    I am at that point of total annihilation for this smoky 305 I just left a huge cloud of smoke at the bike shop and the

    deli upon start up it's gotten real old Runs good though otherwise sounds mean even it only has the power of a weezy

    3800. I am installing this 2004r shortly so I am going to find something to bolt to it and do engine /tranny swap saves

    a lot of grief . Now in the meanwhile maybe I'll go film a few 6000rpm drops for laughs. Maybe I should post a write up

    of the shift kit\mods I'm in the middle of on the forum. The 2004r is an easy tranny to work on I think and nice and

    light to boot without the converter it's no problem to move around.
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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Sweet Seventy9 on Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:01 pm

    All that smoke keeps the exhaust lubricated, lol

    6K rpm neutral drops... awesome. I bet the 1st thing to go is a rod bolt, blowing a nice hole in the side of the block.
    Have you ever smelled a blown engine? Eeeeeew! It's raunchy!
    Maybe you could pull it and make it into a patio Margarita Mixer? Or a Go Cart!! Yeah!! put it on a go cart! Shifter carts are hitting above 80mph so I bet it would do 150mph! I volunteer anybody but me as a test driver.


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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Myloth on Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:16 pm

    Lol exhaust lube! I had two go bad one was K car 2.2l that threw a rod\piston went right through the front of the block and

    a not so violent rod go in a 3800 supercharged.



    Hey I didn't know they made these they are intended for G bodies but look like a shoe in for the B bodies as well.

    (Maybe few welds to strengthen.)


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/221712125550


    I already bought one today and will be trying it out next week with the transmission install.
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    Post  Sweet Seventy9 on Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:34 pm

    I'm not familiar with it but hey, it never hurts to strengthen that mounting area. What are you using for a cross member?


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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Myloth on Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:23 pm

    The original one for now but that will change when I do the dual exhaust.
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    89 You haven't seen before

    Post  Myloth on Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:25 pm

    Here's a few pics of that 89 I seen before it's a one owner Landau old guy drives it

    who lives near me. I was able to snap a few at Stewarts.



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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Gooched78Caprice on Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:10 pm

    That's either an 86 or 87 landau. Those are the only year with those tail lights and sport mirrors. No 2 doors were factory made after 1987.

    If that's an 87 and possibly with a stock 350, it'd be super rare... I'd almost trade for an 87 with a 350... ALMOST.

    Thanks for sharing!


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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Myloth on Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:53 am

    I'll have to check the year next time I swore he said 88 or 89 but maybe I am wrong. I do believe it is a 305 though but

    I will confirm.
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    Finally!

    Post  Myloth on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:38 pm

    It's been a while but as I posted before some personal issues have kept me from doing much. (Mom died, Kids etc)

    Anyway a new neighbor who is a very experienced mechanic helped me sort out this 305 .

    Turns out it had several bugaboos. one was the distributor (which has been replaced with rebuilt) second

    was the vacuum manifold tee was damaged (badly ripped threads and bent!) and third the tranny modulator was bad.

    Also we checked everything from compression (surprisingly good) to vacuum and set the timing at 9 deg (good idle now)

    All this has been fixed and it runs pretty damn good, it's tire chirping good reminds me of a friends 88' Monte SS

    To prove it to myself if (because I think I need it.) I am going to post a video this weekend  of me driving it just

    to see how it sounds , expect a link this weekend. Anyway hope everyone is good and your B bodies too!


    Here's a few pics of the new and the old parts.

    This is the rebuilt distributor came from 80' 350. Everything is new except the shaft and weight mechanism



    Here's the Vacuum Tee



    Here's the old Tranny Modulator




    And last and certainly least the old vacuum tee not sure what the heck happened to it but it did!

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    Video 0-55mph

    Post  Myloth on Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:10 pm



    Here's a video I made today notice the carb pop and the Brooklyn accent lol.

    Update Carb pop is gone turns out I had one idle

    screw off a bit too far. No more popping anyway.
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    10k Gold

    Post  Myloth on Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:16 pm

    I couldn't resist not sharing this pic I was bored today this is the result.

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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Myloth on Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:26 pm

    It's been a while since I posted an update so here it is. I just finished installing an electric fan setup it came out

    good I took my time and set it up right the first time (haha). The sheetmetal well I am no master of riveting in

    fact it was my third  time doing it and the last was some years ago but it's highly functional if not pretty.

    Now the car warms up a lot faster and stays at a steady 180 once it is.







    I also should give thanks to the Heat Miser for making this possible by giving us such a warm December this year!

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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  solo79 on Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:06 pm

    That's a cool mod. Great job! I was thinking about doing an electric fan setup on mine when the time comes.


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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Myloth on Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:56 am

    Thanks I am still getting used to the quiet at idle and not having to worry about my fingers under the hood. The kits

    they sell are pretty painless to use (ok pun intended). I would watch out for the cheap breaker they give I intend

    to replace it soon. I had to JB weld it because it cracked off it's base before being installed! And these are very

    common items I think what is bad tack welds these below.



    I think I will use something like this it's waterproof and has manual break if needed.

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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Fierro51 on Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:28 pm

    Myloth wrote:From what I read about this it's a high nickel content Mexican 3970010 4 bolt main 350 Target replacement

    engines? And these were made a looong time ago but I guess they are rather solid block and people have built

    them to over 500hp. My best bet will be to take the block to a shop having it checked then bored , decked etc

    either a 355 or 383 not sure on that yet. Many claim these blocks can be bored .080 or more, if even half true

    the scratches can be removed. Anybody ever have one of these?
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    Myloth wrote:I decoded my block numbers from this crate I bought and it tuns out it was built in Mexico Jan 23 1980.

    I did not even think they made the crate motors in 1980. It's a Target Master crate that was offered through

    certain retailers. Just some info if you ever see a used GM crate motor it might be older than you think.

    It is odd I use to read PHR, Car Craft and Hot Rod,R&T,etc.etc religiously as a teen(1980s) and the first ad for

    GM replacement crate that I remember was the very early 90s. It's not a bad thing though if you are looking

    for a good block the old Mexican Crates are 4bolt mains , high in Nickel and considered fairly stout. And these

    beat out many later year(back to the 80s..) blocks for the aforementioned qualities for a rebuild.


    PS Another piece of info I found out is there are people looking for the older 4bbl low compression heads

    for their 80s and early 90s TBI motors as they say those TBI heads are worse than anything. I sold

    the heads from my motor for a bill to a guy who needed therm for 93 Tahoe interesting...

    Myloth wrote:Here are some snaps I thought might be a good reminder of being thorough.

    Here are pics of the radiator \ Evaporator removed and the front brace







    You'll notice how the brace looks well the other side after some light brushing here's how it looked




    and the bottom



    THE SOLUTION



    I love this stuff works great





    Better I hope




    I am in the process today of sanding and painting hoping to have new parts

    (New hose, transmission cooler & hose, electric fan kit)



    Triple Core 2.25" 22x19 all aluminum radiator



    in tomorrow or Friday. I also plan to use a late model Jeep shroud for the electric fan it's a better

    fit . Here's a good tip blow out your alternator every 6mos at least I just blew out a wad of hairy

    black gunk out of mine.

    Myloth wrote:It's been a while since I posted an update so here it is. I just finished installing an electric fan setup it came out

    good I took my time and set it up right the first time (haha). The sheetmetal well I am no master of riveting in

    fact it was my third  time doing it and the last was some years ago but it's highly functional if not pretty.

    Now the car warms up a lot faster and stays at a steady 180 once it is.







    I also should give thanks to the Heat Miser for making this possible by giving us such a warm December this year!


    Target motors.... gms first run at a crate program. Back in dads asphalt modifed days they went through those things like they were free... called them hand grenades. They were cheaply built and assembled using any pieces gm had. Dad and my uncle would kick everyone round the track everywhere they went and the egines had a claim rule. When they got claimed and the claimer got the engine no flywheel clutch or intake and carb  they would get mad when they tore down the engine and found it had 5 6 or even 8 differnent pistons, differnent cast type connecting rods, 0.010 or 0.020 turned crank and they got spanked by it! Glad to see there still out there.  
    Op whos radiator did you use? Afco? Howe? Speedway? And what dia. And mfg electric fan did you use


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    Post  Myloth on Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:02 am

    Yeah Target the block actually was good I checked it's specs in excellent shape. But two of the piston rings went sour

    on that motor so yeah prob crap parts. The fan is a Summit 16" Electric that came with a radiator and still haven't used

    it yet but the Rad that's in there is I believe a Rock Auto plastic/ aluminum 28x17 it works fine though especially

    with the HD HD Water Pump (Aluminum Impeller and Body). The install to was a snap hardest part was making that shroud

    from scratch.
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    Re: 79 you have seen before

    Post  Fierro51 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:59 pm

    Myloth wrote:Yeah Target the block actually was good I checked it's specs in excellent shape. But two of the piston rings went sour

    on that motor so yeah prob crap parts.  The fan is a Summit 16" Electric that came with a radiator and still haven't used

    it yet  but the Rad that's in there is I believe a Rock Auto plastic/ aluminum 28x17 it works fine though especially

    with the HD HD Water Pump (Aluminum Impeller and Body). The install to was a snap hardest part was making that shroud

    from scratch.

    Yeah the blocks were usually good. but machining/ assembly processes weren't the best.
    ok im gonna do a electric to help clear charge piping on my setup. and whos water pump? sounds like a moroso brand?
    and the shrounds are pretty easy to fab up with the right tools. idk if you had access to some 3/16 aluminum sheet metal some shears and a rivet gun. youd be set in a heat beat. or get on speedway/summit/or jegs and order one of thesehttp://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-380328-sh/overview/


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    Post  Myloth on Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:23 pm

    https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chevrolet,1979,impala,5.0l+305cid+v8,1049329,cooling+system,water+pump,2208

    No it's actually Airtex through Rock Auto  this as I said is Heavy Duty Heavy Duty All Aluminum and for the price! I'd say it's the best Water Pump I've used for this kind of money.

    AIRTEX AW1121HX Includes Gasket Info
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    Post  Fierro51 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:49 pm

    Myloth wrote:https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chevrolet,1979,impala,5.0l+305cid+v8,1049329,cooling+system,water+pump,2208

    No it's actually Airtex through Rock Auto  this as I said is Heavy Duty Heavy Duty All Aluminum and for the price! I'd say it's the best Water Pump I've used for this kind of money.

    AIRTEX AW1121HX Includes Gasket Info
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    Not a bad price at all! and I ment to clarify but the all aluminum radiator you showed a picture off the triple pass. that is the one I was wonder the manufacture of


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    Post  Myloth on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:21 pm

    Today I finally got my Power Steering belt nice and tight . (bracket issues)

    Soon as I fired it up the alternator whined like crazy. Bearings were shot so anyway

    I install my backup alternator till new bearings (already on the way) get here.

    So what happens the replacement whines even louder lol!

    I guess I should have double checked that one...

    Well the Impala has been running almost every day since the summer I guess it

    needs a break for few days.

    There maybe hope I forgot about a cs144 I painted that I tried before I don't think I realized there was

    no current on the idiot light(deleted) side to excite it so even it spun there was no current .

    Tomorrow I'll run a new wire to it and hopefully have some juice.
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    Post  Fierro51 on Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:13 pm

    Myloth wrote:Today I finally got my Power Steering belt nice and tight . (bracket issues)

    Soon as I fired it up the alternator whined like crazy. Bearings were shot so anyway

    I install my backup alternator till new bearings (already on the way) get here.

    So what happens the replacement whines even louder lol!

    I guess I should have double checked that one...

    Well the Impala has been running almost every day since the summer I guess it

    needs a break for few days.

    There maybe hope I forgot about a cs144 I painted that I tried before I don't think I realized there was

    no current on the idiot light(deleted) side to excite it so even it spun there was no current .

    Tomorrow I'll run a new wire to it and hopefully have some juice.
    did that fix it?


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