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    Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  efladerr on Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:29 pm

    Hi guys, I'm working on my 1986 caprice doing and lq4 swap with a t56 but before I get start doing that I want to upgrade my steering box to a fast ratio box if possible I was going to get the flaming river part no. FLA-FR1560 but I've done done some researching and found that alot of people having problems with then I found this steering box from turn one "click here to see". which is a replacement for the Saginaw 700 series steering boxes as they say. So my question is will a Saginaw 700 series steering box fit a 1986 caprice ?

    and please tell me If anyone is interested in seeing a project thread on the car I already have some pics but I'm too lazy to start a project thread xD.

    thank you Very Happy.
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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  GM B-Body Forum on Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:41 pm

    Well ofcourse we want a project thread! But other than that im no help, ive looked into getting a faster ratio gear box but hadnt purchased one yet for my 79, I know Classic Industries has a 2.5 turn lock to lock, and i hear the third gen f bodies use a quick ratio and are direct bolt ins if i remember correctly. I think they changed the fittings on the gear box in 1980? i cant remember, that doesnt sound right, i think it was the later 80s they changed i think it was to metric fittings, again im no help with this one lol


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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  efladerr on Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:31 am

    ok I will do one as soon as I can Smile. I read a little bit about third gen F-bodies lots of people said that a diffrent pitman arm is needed for the b-body I didnt like the Idea because one day I will be getting a hotchkis steering linkage and i fear that it will cause some problems. also I really want to try the turn one box but its too expensive to buy it and not use it if it doesn't work for me. do you know the series number of the b-body steering box ?


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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  efladerr on Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:38 am

    what about the stock 14:1 ratio boxes anyone knows any good ones?
    either 14:1 or 12:1 is fine with me I just want a reliable box.
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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  GM B-Body Forum on Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:05 pm

    Ive seen a few brands out there going for well over 500 dollars for a gear box, and if i were to do it which i will id just get a reman in whatever ratio a full 2.5 turns lock to lock is.


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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  Kit1078 on Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:57 pm

    I have an extra F41 gearbox from a '94 caprice i picked up last summer. It's the same as the 12.7:1 gearbox from a 9C1 with the double wide alignment key on the pitman arm. I can dig it out and send pics if you want, just PM me.
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    Post  efladerr on Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:52 am

    I think I'll just order that turn one steering box and if it doesn't fit I'll just convince my self that it will help me with a future project xD.
    thanks for the replies guys Smile
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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  GM B-Body Forum on Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:49 am

    Haha no problem man, and if so, make a project thread!


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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  efladerr on Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:53 am

    GM B-Body Forum wrote:Haha no problem man, and if so, make a project thread!
     I'm writing it know. tell me if there some things that I need to change in project thread if you see it. its my first time doing one Smile.
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    cool! Very Happy


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    Post  terry cronk on Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:41 pm

    This is on Ebay. More available.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remanufactured-Quick-Ratio-Power-Steering-Gear-Box-Gearbox-For-GM-AMC-Cars-/120838479470?fits=Year%3A1979%7CMake%3AChevrolet%7CModel%3ACaprice%7CSubmodel%3AClassic+Sport%7CEngine+-+Liter_Display%3A5.0L&hash=item1c2288de6e:g:D6IAAOSwHMJYIiDT&vxp=mtr
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    Post  terry cronk on Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:34 am

    I also found a used box from a 1982-92 Camaro for $49.99 plus shipping.

    It is used, so that would be taking a chance on condition.  Its a 2 1/4 lock to lock supposedly.
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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  efladerr on Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:48 pm

    terry cronk wrote:This is on Ebay.  More available.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remanufactured-Quick-Ratio-Power-Steering-Gear-Box-Gearbox-For-GM-AMC-Cars-/120838479470?fits=Year%3A1979%7CMake%3AChevrolet%7CModel%3ACaprice%7CSubmodel%3AClassic+Sport%7CEngine+-+Liter_Display%3A5.0L&hash=item1c2288de6e:g:D6IAAOSwHMJYIiDT&vxp=mtr
    hmmm nice price thanks for link Smile. Have you tried it or know someone who did?
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    Post  terry cronk on Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:39 pm

    No I have not. Just looking at some front end work for this spring.

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    Re: Need Help With Steering Box Upgrade

    Post  efladerr on Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:46 am

    So I sent an email to turn one asking if the T12BASE steering box would fit my 86 caprice, And the said that it's a direct fit. And the stock pitman arm will work just fine. So I'll be getting one at the end of this month. what sucks is that I may need to wait one year before the car runs so I won't know how it preforms as soon as it's in :. thanks a lot for the help guys Smile.

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